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Post by Americans on May 29, 2008 14:24:45 GMT -5
Celtics send: Rajon Rondo Zach Randolph
Bulls send: Kirk Hinrich Luol Deng
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Post by Americans on May 29, 2008 14:27:16 GMT -5
I like it for the Celtics a lot, Hinrich isn't a worse defender then Rondo...
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Post by Heat on May 29, 2008 19:20:43 GMT -5
This is a rape. WOW. Hinrich is much better then Rondo Randolph sucks at defense and even if he was B defense I would still take Deng no questions.
Hinrich>>>>>>Rondo Deng>>>>>>Randolph
Congrats to the Celtics for being the new Joe in this sim
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Post by Americans on May 29, 2008 19:33:56 GMT -5
Heh, he's not the new "Joe"...
1 trade isn't going to do anything, He'll need about another 50.
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Post by Heat on May 29, 2008 19:54:26 GMT -5
Heh, he's not the new "Joe"... 1 trade isn't going to do anything, He'll need about another 50. lol true Great I now have to play for the 3rd spot in the east, there is no chance for a top 2 seed with the Wizrads and Celtics being so good
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Post by Bullets on May 29, 2008 20:56:26 GMT -5
Damn! Celtics won BIG on this trade adding two good players now and for the future. It gets even more interesting in the Atlantic....
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Post by dnom81 on May 29, 2008 23:17:15 GMT -5
Zach rocks and if he was B defense, as a player I would actually take Randolph over Deng since that would mean Randolph would have star bigman ratings. The reality is though Randolph is C defense though and I couldn't win with his averages of .9 assists and .1 blocks. Right now very happy with the trade since Kirk is a stepup from Rondo and Deng could be my future at SG/SF
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Post by Americans on May 30, 2008 0:06:36 GMT -5
Deng is expendable though Also, Zach with B defense would be a top big man in this league for sure.
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Post by ducky on May 30, 2008 1:44:27 GMT -5
Wow this is pretty bad for the Bulls. Deng >>> Zbo. Zbo is trash. He can't play defense, and his contract sucks so he's a huge liability. Deng is still 23 and is only getting better with 20+ppg.
Yeah IF zbo had B defense, this would have been closer to fair. But guess what? He doesn't, he is a whole grade lower, C.
The Rondo for Hinrich part of this deal really puts this over the top. This is veto material in my eyes. This just makes me show that the Bulls isn't thinking right.
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Post by Americans on May 30, 2008 9:53:01 GMT -5
I was thinking veto, but then I'm thinking Bulls can learn through his mistakes when he makes them, thats the only way you learn. This deal isn't setting his team back any further than it already is, so I'm ok with it for the most part.
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Post by Indiana on May 30, 2008 14:46:23 GMT -5
I don't think it's veto worthy. Sure the Celtics win, but I wouldn't want to have Kirk's contract, even though Randolph's is worse. Plus, Luol Deng could easily leave in the offseason. Rondo's a decent youngster, so combined with that and acquiring a good scoring big man, they're not too bad.
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Post by hawkballer30 on May 30, 2008 20:34:19 GMT -5
lol this aint much of a mistake...randolph is nice...i didnt want defense and nocioni will step in at SF...i dont like hinrich not a fan and ive hated him since day 1 in chicago...rondo is my boy from UK..i kinda got worked in this deal but i like what im workin with plus deng wont be in boston for long with that expiring contract
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Post by ducky on May 31, 2008 1:21:48 GMT -5
I don't think it's veto worthy. Sure the Celtics win, but I wouldn't want to have Kirk's contract, even though Randolph's is worse. Plus, Luol Deng could easily leave in the offseason. Rondo's a decent youngster, so combined with that and acquiring a good scoring big man, they're not too bad. It's definitely arguable. I don't think this is sure veto material, but all I'm saying is if it was my call, I'd say veto. Doesn't really matter though, cuz I'm about to run this shit in a few years.
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Post by Indiana on May 31, 2008 10:19:59 GMT -5
I don't think it's veto worthy. Sure the Celtics win, but I wouldn't want to have Kirk's contract, even though Randolph's is worse. Plus, Luol Deng could easily leave in the offseason. Rondo's a decent youngster, so combined with that and acquiring a good scoring big man, they're not too bad. It's definitely arguable. I don't think this is sure veto material, but all I'm saying is if it was my call, I'd say veto. Yeh, but a trade that's arguably vetoable shouldn't be vetoed. We do have to let GM's run their own teams. Really, the only trades that should be vetoed are the ones that have no defense at all, completely destroy a team, and hurt the league.
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Post by mp on May 31, 2008 18:40:54 GMT -5
Only if I knew this...
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